Re: [情報] Cruise L4自駕配備人類駕駛

[自駕] 1. 兩套以上獨立的自駕系統(備援、冗餘) 2. 承1，兩套系統可以互相檢視比對，一旦發生失效，系統會自行偵測到失效 3. 失效後在人不介入(接管)的條件下仍能保持安全 4. 重新恢復運作需要靠人接管 [輔助] 1. 系統單一 2. 當系統做了錯誤判斷，沒有另一套機制，所以系統壓根不知道產生錯誤 3. 系統無法自行偵測失效 4. 全仰賴在駕駛座的駕駛人注意和隨時接管 像Waymo這類自駕車 駕駛方式很笨拙，在限定區域的開放道路運行仍有一堆bug問題(卡住、逆向) 這些bug失效無法預期哪時出現，但發生當下系統 1. 能偵測到失效 2. 在人尚未接管下保持安全性 簡單講就是滿足失效安全 直到人類接管並恢復運作 Criuse則是輾死前車撞飛的人，即便車能停下但無法確保安全性，被要求需要安全駕駛 FSD會在絕大多數(99.9%)的條件下駕駛方式更接近人類 但機器學習、AI不可能訓練到完美(可能餵越多數據反而造成某些場景應對退步) 所以當今天遇到那極低的0.1%情況 系統出錯但系統並不認為失效(也沒法偵測到失效) 就得全靠駕駛人判斷是否要立即介入接管 像是ISO 26262功能安全、ISO 21448預期功能安全(SOTIF)、FIT(Failures In Time) 這些都是政府核准自駕牌照的依據，之前也都提過了 ※ 引述《LimYoHwan (gosu mage)》之銘言： : https://tinyurl.com/bvkhn237 : 簡易翻譯： : Cruise公司表示,他們將恢復採用有安全駕駛員監督的自動駕駛模式。這是因為他們去年 : 發生的一起無人駕駛事故後,暫時停止了無人駕駛服務,並進行了全面的安全評估。 : 經過評估後,Cruise決定先恢復自動駕駛,但仍然會有安全駕駛員在車內監督。這可以在提 : 供自動駕駛功能的同時保證乘客安全。 : https://i.imgur.com/WVhDrCF.jpeg : Cruise表示,這種監督式自動駕駛模式只是過渡階段,他們最終的目標仍然是實現完全無人 : 駕駛。此次事故顯示,即使是先進的自動駕駛技術,在實際運營中仍需要更謹慎的安全措施 : 。 : 齁，cruise配備這麼多感知設備，一堆光達，也有備援系統，且通過政府法規認證可以運 : 行無人計程車，啊 怎麼車上又放人了，那我可以認為「人」才是備援嗎？那些光達根本 : 沒屁用….. : 自駕的瓶頸是AI問題還是光達、硬體問題？ : 車版大師表示？ : Starting this week, Cruise AVs will begin supervised autonomous driving in Pho : enix as Cruise takes further steps towards returning to its driverless mission : . : For the past several weeks Cruise has been mapping and collecting road informa : tion in Phoenix. Now, we will validate our AV’s end-to-end behaviors against : our rigorous safety and AV performance requirements. During this phase, the Cr : uise vehicles will drive autonomously with a safety driver present behind the : wheel to monitor and take over if needed. : Supervised autonomous driving is a critical validation phase prior to driverle : ss deployment and builds on our extensive work in simulation, closed-course dr : iving and more than 5 million driverless miles previously driven by our fleet : to ensure safe performance on real-world roads and driving scenarios. Safety d : rivers play an important role in testing the AV’s performance and the continu : ous improvement of our technology. We’ll begin supervised autonomous driving : in the city of Phoenix and will gradually expand to Scottsdale, Paradise Valle : y, Tempe, Mesa, Gilbert and Chandler measured against predetermined safety ben : chmarks. : Safety is the defining principle for everything we do and continues to guide o : ur progress towards resuming driverless operations. From comprehensive vehicle : management before our AVs depart the garage to continuous driver monitoring a : nd roadworthiness of the vehicle, we deploy rigorous safety procedures, protoc : ols and performance requirements to ensure supervised autonomous operations ar : e safe for operation on public roads. : Our safety measures and procedures are multifaceted and can be grouped into th : ree pillars: : Product Safety: Cruise AVs are fully-integrated autonomous vehicles derived fr : om the Chevy Bolt EV platform, manufactured by General Motors, and tested to v : alidate that the vehicles meet all motor vehicle safety requirements after th : e addition and installation of Cruise AV hardware (sensors, etc.). We have pro : cedures in place to ensure our AVs are appropriately maintained and that new s : oftware is thoroughly tested and validated through a measured release process : prior to deploying to the fleet. : Operational Safety: We have documented procedures and protocols in place to en : sure the safety of our fleet operations for those in our vehicles and those we : share the road with, including driver training, ongoing performance managemen : t processes, and responsible scaling of operations. : Enterprise Safety: Safe operations start with a safety-focused culture, and ev : ery worker at Cruise is empowered and responsible for the safety of our produ : ct and operations. We enable safety culture through appropriate governance, po : licies, reporting mechanisms, and regular safety training. : We are committed to partnering with the communities we serve, so whether human : -driven or autonomous, we encourage any community member to report driving con : cerns to our Community Feedback portal. When a concern is submitted, we will i : nvestigate the claim and, as needed, take appropriate action. Our feedback for : m: getcruise.com/support-center : As we continue through this journey, we look forward to working with local com : munities to jointly achieve our shared mission of making transportation safer : for all. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.34.222.29 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/car/M.1715682027.A.82B.html