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Re: [新聞] 韓國發現常溫常壓超導體

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最新2023-08-02 13:51:00
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※ 引述《caseypie (吟遊詩人)》之銘言: : https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037 : 材料是Pb_{10-x}Cu_x(PO_4)_6O : 在室溫一大氣壓下測得零電阻和反磁性 : 麥斯納效應影片:https://sciencecast.org/casts/suc384jly50n : 文章內詳細解釋了合成方法 : 作者只用了修正的BCS來解釋機制 : ---- : 要是真的,那韓國人真的要發明全宇宙了 就機制來說 National Lab是支持這個結果 https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1686215574177841152 National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor. Simulations published 1 hour ago on arxiv support LK-99 as the holy grail of modern material science and applied physics. (https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892) 以下為推特內文 Here's the plain-english explanation: - The simulations modeled what the original Korean authors proposed was happening to their material - where copper atoms were percolating into a crystal structure and replacing lead atoms, causing the crystal to strain slightly and contract by 0.5%. This unique structure was proposed to allow this amazing property. - @sineatrix from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab simulated this using heavy-duty compute power from the Department of Energy, and looked to see what would happen to the 'electronic structure' of this material, meaning, what are the available conduction pathways in the material. - It turns out that there are conduction pathways for electrons that are in just the right conditions and places that would enable them to 'superconduct'. More specifically, they were close to the 'Fermi Surface' which is like the sea-level of electrical energy, as in '0 ft above sea-level.' It's believed currently that the more conduction pathways close to the Fermi surface, the higher the temperature you can superconduct at (An analogy might be how its easier for planes to fly close to the surface of the ocean due to the 'ground effect' that gives them more lift.) This plot in particular shows the 'bands', or electron pathways, crossing above and below the Fermi surface. - Lastly, these interesting conduction pathways only form when the copper atom percolates into the less likely location in the crystal lattice, or the 'higher energy' binding site. This means the material would be difficult to synthesize since only a small fraction of crystal gets its copper in just the right location. This is insanely bullish for humanity. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.128.223.151 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Physics/M.1690862970.A.501.html

44 則留言

peter308, 1F
預定諾獎了?

linbryan, 2F
裏面提到這材料難做.因Cu難放在對位置.可預期雜質很多.

linbryan, 3F
我猜他只是測量bulk sample.如測量很小sample(lithograp

linbryan, 4F
hy).有沒幫助?還有單high Tc並沒解決應用問題.重要在hig

linbryan, 5F
h Ic, Hc.

peter308, 6F
似乎是用VASP 模擬的? 問題是第一原理模擬參雜系統

peter308, 7F
要建構的超晶包要很大 才能接近參雜的比率

peter308, 8F
有時候超晶包要到500-1000個原子

peter308, 9F
一般來說 就是看能待在費米能級附近有無平帶

peter308, 10F
但更嚴謹的作法要用EPW(electron-phonon wannier) 套件

peter308, 11F
去做更進一步的驗證

meblessme, 12F
如果好複現也不會丟出來了

Bugquan, 13F
問題是其它復現都沒做出來,不過目前聽說阿貢國家實驗室

Bugquan, 14F
,有跟他們接洽,要直接分析他們手上的成品

meblessme, 15F
不過這不是ai最擅長的嗎,

meblessme, 16F
接下來就看是人先找到還是ai先找到提高良率的辦法了

peter308, 17F
有人手上有XRD數據嗎? 我需要XRD的cif檔就夠

peter308, 18F
剩下的VASP我就能自己算

Bugquan, 19F
不過真的要是室溫超導,其它組沒復現,或是理論跟不上也

Bugquan, 20F
沒差,起碼東西拿出來讓大家有個方向,也確定真有室溫超

Bugquan, 21F

KotoriCute, 22F
沒人能復現那就就跟金屬氫差不多了

Bugquan, 23F
金屬氫那位大哥Ranga Dias,今年"也"搞出室溫超導

yoyun10121, 24F
這是模擬吧, 和復現是兩回事

hank780420, 25F
真的要cif檔直接連絡原團隊吧 他們連比對都用VESTA..

peter308, 26F
下面那篇文章附錄已經有結構檔

wohtp, 27F
先不要說室溫啦,這鬼東西在10K是不是超導?

wohtp, 28F
我好像都沒看到有誰量這個。

Eriri, 29F
除去原作者 目前為止公開量過電阻的只有一組 沒有觀測到超

Eriri, 30F

Eriri, 31F
那篇文章量了150-300K的區間

Eriri, 32F
然後 DFT的那幾篇文章 都沒有證明有沒有超導 其實根本沒有

Eriri, 33F
處理超導

Eriri, 34F
(事實上 哪怕宣稱證明了…DFT的結果都不一定可信…)

Eriri, 35F
磁浮效應則可能真的存在 看起來不同的影片都觀察到了

shybaman, 36F
以全世界沒人鳥,韓國教授崔東植發明的ISB超導模型為基

shybaman, 37F
礎,弄出來的室溫超導體

linbryan, 38F
一般磁浮只要夠輕dimagnetic +夠大磁場就可做到.YBCO磁

linbryan, 39F
浮實驗是強力小磁鐵磁浮在YBCO上.但這個像是磁浮在大磁

linbryan, 40F
鐵上

Eriri, 41F
今天又多了兩篇類似的DFT文章…

peter308, 42F
DFT很簡單啊 難的是EPW的計算

hank780420, 43F
我也跟w大一樣覺得很奇怪 量測都要放到PPMS了

hank780420, 44F
4k-400k的R-T跟M-T都量出來基本的吧.....