[外絮] Sam Amick DLo-Murray交易分析與一些情報整理

LeBron’s voice looms large when assessing a potential Dejounte Murray-Lakers deal (標題太聳動 我改掉了) https://reurl.cc/E4b9Rv As of this Tuesday dispatch, this NBA trade deadline season has been, well, dead. The OG Anunoby-to-the-Knicks deal was last year, for crying out loud (Dec. 30). The Pascal Siakam-to-the-Pacers trade was almost a month ago at this point. And since then, we’ve gotten … Steven Adams to the Rockets. And an injured Steven Adams, no less. But with two days left before the Thursday deadline (3 p.m. Eastern), and with the chance remaining that the fireworks might go off here at the end, there’s at least one high-profile scenario still on the board worth examining from all sides: Dejounte Murray to the Lakers. And with all due respect to the involved parties, from the Hawks front office that has so much to ponder here to the Lakers side that was so widely celebrated when it had a fantastic trade deadline performance around this time a year ago, the widespread intrigue here revolves around one man: LeBron James. While the 39-year-old has not publicly campaigned for the Murray deal in the way he did for Anthony Davis in 2018, he has been sending all sorts of signals lately that he would like the Lakers to do something of significance. Add in that James can become a free agent in fewer than five months from now, and it’s not hard to understand why there’s so much spotlight on this situation at the moment. With that in mind, let’s unpack how they all got here and whether this is a deal that should get done. 一直到今天，NBA交易截止日的相關報導都非常冷清。 OG Anunoby到尼克的交易案已經是去年了(12/30)。Siakam交易至溜馬的交易也已經是快一 個月前的事情。那之後我們只得到了Steven Adams去火箭的交易。而且是受傷的Adams。 但在距離星期四截止日期還有兩天的情況下(東岸時間下午3點)，仍然存在煙火可能在 這裡爆炸的機會，至少還有一個值得從各個方面仔細研究的高調交易案：Dejounte Murray 加盟湖人。考量所有參與方，從需要考慮非常多的老鷹管理層到去年在這個時候在交易截 止日有出色表現的湖人方，這裡的廣泛好奇心都環繞著一個人：LeBron James。 雖然這名39歲的球員還這次沒有如同2018年呼籲管理層交易來Anthony Davis那般公開呼籲 的行為，他確實有向湖人釋放一些必須做些甚麼的信號。再加上LBJ在不到5個月的時間就 可以成為自由球員，現在為什麼這個情況受到如此多的關注也就不難理解了。考慮到這一 點，讓我們深入了解他們是如何走到這一步的，以及是否應該完成這筆交易。 Hawks-Lakers talks As our Lakers beat writer, Jovan Buha, detailed here, the Lakers’ trade talks with Atlanta have continued in recent weeks. The holdup, as has been widely reported for quite some time, is the Hawks’ clear disinterest in taking back D’Angelo Russell and the need for a different landing spot for the Lakers guard as a result (Brooklyn is routinely highlighted by league sources as a Russell candidate here). The Hawks are known to covet Austin Reaves, whom the Lakers have no interest in giving up. The Lakers, per Buha, have offered Russell, rookie guard (and 17th pick) Jalen Hood-Schifino, the 2029 first-round pick (preferably protected) and additional draft compensation. As for the contracts, here’s how they break down. Russell: Owed $17.3 million this season, with a player option worth $18.6 million in 2024-25. Murray: Signed through the 2026-27 campaign, with a player option worth $31.6 million in 2027-28. If he picked up that option, the lump sum owed from this season to the end of 2027-28 is $132.5 million. Murray, like James and fellow Lakers star Anthony Davis, is represented by Rich Paul of Klutch Sports. 湖人-老鷹的談話 如同我們湖人寫手Jovan Buha所說，湖人與老鷹的交易談話在這幾周又持續了。而阻礙這 交易的就是先前被大量報導老鷹隊D'Angelo Russell不感興趣的這件事情並需要尋求第三 方來處理Russell(籃網不斷的被提及為Russell的落腳可能)。老鷹也被知道想要Austin Reaves，而湖人並不想要放棄他。根據Buha所言，湖人提供了Russel、菜鳥後衛(17順位) Jalen Hood-Schifino以及2029首輪選秀權(希望能被保護的)以及額外的選秀補償。 而合約分析如下 Russell:今年17.3M 本季結束有24-25球季18.6M的球員選項 Murray:有到26-27球季的控制權並在27-28有一個31.6M的球員選項。如果他執行選項那將 會是到27-28球季132.5M的合約。Murray，如同James與湖人另一名球星Anthony Davis，都 是雇用Klutch Sports的Rich Paul為他們的經紀人。 The Lakers’ and LeBron’s (annual) pressure play When it comes to James — aka the Benjamin Button of basketball — his ability to continue playing at an elite level at this advanced age means there will always be pressure on the Lakers’ ownership and front office to maximize the roster around him. So with this season’s Lakers mired in mediocrity again, currently standing at ninth place in the Western Conference at 27-25 after winning their last three, it should come as no surprise that the annual LBJ leverage games are back. James has long since become the master of his own message, using all of the various platforms at his disposal to communicate in the kind of way that would be worthy of inclusion in “The Da Vinci Code.” The rare exception came in January 2023, when his declaration that “Y’all know what the f— should be happening” in our interview about that trade deadline season was a moment of LeBron candor the likes of which we rarely see. Sure enough, he walked it back on social media the next day. So when James hit send last week on the hourglass tweet seen ’round the Association, then later declined a request to explain its meaning while speaking to reporters in New York, it sparked the latest round of speculation about what he was truly saying. 湖人與LeBron(年度)的壓力角力 當我們提到James--即籃球的班傑明(班傑明的奇幻旅程的引用)--只要他的能力在這個年紀 還能維持在精英水準，這也就意味著湖人管理層與擁有者始終面臨著圍繞他陣容最大化的 壓力，而隨著本季湖人的戰績再次落於平庸(當前西區第9名並在3連勝後27勝25敗)，那今 年的LBJ籌碼遊戲重現也就不足為奇了。 LeBron James早就成為他訊息的主人，他可以用多個平台以一種值得納入達文西密碼的方 式進行溝通。而少數的例外就是2023年的1月，當他在我們談論交易截止日季節的訪談中宣 稱"你們知道該發生什麼--事"時，這是我們很少見到的James坦率的時刻。不意外的，他第 二天在社交媒體上收回了這番話。 所以當James上禮拜發送了全聯盟最關注的"沙漏"推文，然後在稍後拒絕了在紐約向記者解 釋其含義的請求時，這引發了關於他真正意味著什麼的最新猜測。 But was it James’ way of highlighting the reality that he’s running out of time and pushing for more help in the form of a player like Murray? Or, as one Lakers official speculated, was it somehow related to his well-chronicled desire to share the court with his son Bronny if he enters the draft next season? Only LeBron knows for sure. But lest anyone forget, we’re only a month removed from The Athletic’s report of a disconnect between the Lakers locker room and second-year coach Darvin Ham. The organization’s power brokers chose to push back against those internal forces and stand by Ham — for now, at least — but that perceived pressure to make some sort of significant change typically needs to be relieved somehow. 但是LeBron是在說他沒有時間並要要求更多像Murray這種球員的幫助呢?還是，如同一位湖 人工作人員所猜測的，跟他渴望在下一個賽季與兒子Bronny一同登場的渴望有關?這只有 James本人會知道了。 但別忘了，我們距離上次The Athletic報導湖人休息室與二年級教練Darvin Ham之間的隔 閡僅僅過了一個月。球隊的掌權者決定站在Ham這邊並抵抗了反對Ham的壓力(至少就現在而 言)，但通常需要以某種方式紓解對進行重大變革的壓力。 Whatever James’ intentions, this much is fair to say: His visit to the Big Apple over the weekend was an all-timer when it comes to his ability to get powerful Lakers people talking — and guessing. In the same New York interview with reporters in which James chose not to explain the hourglass, he was asked whether he had decided to pick up his player option for next season that’s worth $51.4 million and has an exercise deadline of June 29. “No,” he replied abruptly. Then came the Knicks-themed messages that went viral on social media, with James wearing sneakers with New York’s team colors, shouting “Mr. James in the Garden!” as he entered their hallowed arena, and even donning a Knicks towel during a nationally televised postgame interview in which he raved about the Knicks’ first-time All-Star, Jalen Brunson. Subtle, it was not. And it didn’t stop there either. 無論James的意圖是甚麼，公平的說:他在這周末作客紐約過程中的訪問是史上最經典的之 一，並造成許多湖人有力人士交談--以及猜測。在紐約給記者訪問時，James選擇不解釋那 個沙漏貼文，他被問到他是否決定要執行下一季的51.4M球員選項(6/29截止)時， "沒有"他斷然回答。 然後是在社交媒體上爆紅的尼克主題的訊息，LBJ穿著紐約尼克配色的運動鞋，當他踏進他 們的神聖競技場時，大喊"James先生在花園裡！"，甚至在一場全國轉播的賽後採訪中披上 尼克毛巾，他對尼克的首次全明星球員Jalen Brunson讚不絕口。這一切都並不含蓄，而且 還不止於此。 On Friday, there was the relevant and curiously timed revelation — as reported by The New York Post — that the Knicks are apparently back in business when it comes to Klutch Sports clients. The extended friction between Paul and Knicks president Leon Rose had been fixed, with league sources telling The Athletic that Rose made a point to smooth things over earlier this season. Rose, to review, was Paul’s mentor at Creative Artists Agency and James’ former agent before they both departed to build Klutch Sports. This development matters, of course, because it had become a major obstacle for the Knicks whenever they considered the prospect of adding Klutch Sports clients. A major part of the issue, as is widely known in league circles, was the way the Knicks handled Cam Reddish, a Klutch client, during his short and unsuccessful time there from 2022 to 2023. Reddish has since become a pivotal part of the Lakers rotation (he has been out since late January with an ankle injury). But back to James and the fascinating way he has been moving of late. 星期五，根據New York Post的報導，有一個相關且時間微妙的消息曝光——尼克顯然在與 Clutch的客戶進行業務交流。在這之前，Paul與尼克總裁Leon Rose長久以來的摩擦已經獲 得了解決。有內線指出Rose在這季前期特意努力平息了這種情況。 需要回顧的是，Rose在Paul單飛成立Clutch前曾經是Paul在CAA的導師也曾經是LeBron James的經紀人。這對於一切的發展來說都很重要，因為這原本成為了尼克想要簽下任何由 Klutch Sports所代表的球員時最大的阻礙。 眾所周知，這個問題的主要原因之一是尼克在2022年至2023年間如何處理Clutch客戶Cam Reddish的方式，他在那裡的時間又短又不成功。Reddish自那時以來已經成為湖人陣容 的重要一員（雖然自一月底以來因腳踝受傷缺席）。但回到James，以及他最近的行動，這 令人著迷。 His statement to reporters regarding his contract is the only part that truly matters when it comes to the power dynamics in play here. Team sources say the Lakers would strongly prefer that James retire in their jersey someday, meaning he holds all the cards until his contract situation gets figured out. The Lakers’ top decision makers have no illusions about that much. But for all the media and fan focus on James’ latest messaging, the truth about his relationship with the Lakers at this point is that nothing qualifies as a crisis until there’s an actual meeting called. In February 2022, amid reports of rising tension between the two sides and James’ choice to discuss a possible return to Cleveland at All-Star Weekend, the dynamics were sensitive enough that they all sat down in person to discuss solutions. This situation, it’s clear, hasn’t reached that point. As Paul made clear in an interview with ESPN’s Brian Windhorst, James “won’ t be traded, and we aren’t asking to be (traded).” A high-ranking Lakers source, meanwhile, scoffed at the idea that the Lakers would even consider trading James. But so long as the goal remains for this partnership to continue, it certainly behooves the Lakers to take James’ voice into account. If, that is, he chooses to use it in a direct manner with team officials rather than this sort of passive-aggressive style. 他對於記者關於他合約的聲明是在這個權力動態中唯一重要的部分。內線指出，湖人非常 想要LeBron James作為湖人球員退役，這意味著在他的合約問題解決之前，他擁有所有牌 面。湖人的最高決策者們對此毫不懷疑。 但儘管所有媒體與球迷都聚焦在LeBron最新的訊息，但目前他與湖人的關係真相是，在實 際召開會議之前，沒有什麼事情是危機。在2022年2月，有報導稱雙方關係緊張，LeBron在 全明星週末討論可能回克利夫蘭的選擇，氛圍敏感到足以讓他們當面坐下來討論解決辦法 。很明顯，現在情況還沒有達到那個地步。 正如同Paul接受ESPN的Brian Windhorst所言，"LeBron不會被交易，且他不會要求被交易" 。與此同時，一位湖人內部高層的來源對湖人甚至考慮交易詹姆斯的想法嗤之以鼻。只要 目標仍然是繼續這種夥伴關係，湖人當然應該考慮詹姆斯的聲音。前提是他選擇與球隊高 層直接交流，而不是以這種消極-積極的方式。 When James was asked about the trade deadline after a win Monday night in Charlotte, he had this to say. 當星期一晚上在夏洛特贏球之後，LBJ被問到有關交易大限時的想法時回答: LeBron James was asked twice about the trade deadline tonight. Here are his two answers: You guys went 4-2 on this trip. Do you feel like as a team you've proven or shown why you guys should continue to invest in this group? James: "This is who we have, so there's nothing else to talk about." With the trade deadline approaching, do you like the makeup of this roster? Is this roster good enough to win a championship? Do changes need to be made? James: "It's not a question for me. I love who we have in the locker room. And that's all I worry about. ... "I don't get caught up in that. We're gonna go out and prepare ourselves every single night no matter what it is. No matter who's out on this team. No matter what. So it's my job and it's AD's job as the two captains to make sure we keep the main thing the main thing. The main focus is now: Thursday's game at home. And look forward to that matchup." (Buha的貼文 https://twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1754711086375272467) 記者:你們這次客場之旅4-2。你覺得你們這支球隊有證明或展現了為甚麼該繼續投資在這 支球隊上了嗎? James:我們就是有這些人，所以沒有甚麼好說的 隨著交易大限到達，你是否喜歡這個陣容?這支球隊有好到足以贏得一座冠軍?有需要作出 甚麼改變嗎? "這不是我可以回答的問題。我喜歡更衣室里的每個人。這就是我關心的一切。...我不會 捲入其中。無論這支球隊上場的是誰，無論如何。所以作為兩位隊長，我和AD的工作就是 確保我們將重要要的事情保持為重要的事情。現在的要事就是：主場的星期四比賽。期待 那場比賽。" In terms of how the Lakers evaluate their own possible pieces of this trade, this part is certainly worth noting: Russell has picked a hell of a time to play some of his best basketball. Just take a look at the before and after here: Russell from Dec. 1 to Jan. 9 (14 games): 10.4 points (41 percent shooting overall and 32.9 percent from 3 on five attempts per) and 5.4 assists per game. On Dec. 23, Ham moved Russell to a reserve role that lasted just seven games before he returned to the starting lineup. Russell’s 14 games since then: He is the Lakers’ second-leading scorer behind James and ahead of Davis, averaging 23.6 points per (46.8 percent shooting overall and 46.3 percent from 3 on 8.8 attempts per) and 6.5 assists (second behind James and ahead of Reaves). The tricky part to unpack, for the Lakers’ purposes, is that they went 8-6 during each of those spans. Still, Russell deserves credit for turning his season around and making the Lakers think twice about how much of an upgrade Murray might be. The defensive possibilities that come with Murray are certainly playing a big part here, as he is a much more effective wing defender than Russell and the Lakers (who just lost forward Jarred Vanderbilt for at least three weeks because of a foot sprain) are currently 14th in defensive rating. 就湖人評估他們的交易籌碼而言，這部分肯定值得注意，Russell選擇在這個時刻打出他最 好的表現，只需看看這裡的前後對比: Russell自12/1至1/9(14場比賽):場均10.4分(41% FG 32.9 % 3P 5 3PA)與5.4助攻。12/23 Ham將Russell下放至板凳而7場之後他就回到了先發。 那之後的14場比賽:他是湖人第二高的得分點(LBJ之後 AD之前)，場均23.6分(46.8% FG 46.3% 3P 8 3PA)與6.5助攻(LBJ之後的第二，Reaves之前)。 對於湖人而言，難以理解的部分是，在這兩個時段內，他們都以8-6的戰績取得了勝利。 儘管如此，DLo應該為挽回賽季受到稱讚並使湖人重新思考Murray在多大程度上會是一個升 級。Murray帶來的防守可能性在這裡當然起到了很大的作用，因為他是一名比DLo更有效的 側翼防守者，而湖人（剛剛因為腳踝扭傷失去了前鋒Jarred Vanderbilt，至少三周不能上 場），目前在DRTG上排名第14。 The Hawks and the Murray calculus It’s been 20 months since the previous Hawks front-office regime succumbed to ownership pressure and did the Murray deal with the San Antonio Spurs that cost them three first-rounders, a first-round pick swap and Danilo Gallinari. They were one year removed from an East finals appearance at the time, with organizational aspirations of title contention if they could find the right star to pair alongside franchise centerpiece Trae Young. But as we’ve seen since, with the Hawks getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs in consecutive years and now sitting 10th in the East (22-28), even after a recent four-game winning streak, this clearly wasn’t the move to make back then. And the 25-year-old Young, who is the only player in the league averaging at least 27 points and 10 assists and was named an All-Star for the third time on Tuesday, hasn’t gotten any … younger in the process. As Marc Stein reported recently, and which was confirmed by a league source to The Athletic, second-year Hawks coach Quin Snyder is known to be advocating for the Hawks to hold onto Murray. That sort of prominent voice is certainly enough to split the room, so to speak, when a particular trade is being analyzed. 老鷹與Murray的盤算 距離老鷹上次因為屈服於來自老闆方的壓力而與聖安東尼奧馬刺進行的Murray交易案已經 過了20個月了，而這筆交易讓他們損失了3個首輪選秀權、1個首輪交換權與Danilo Gallinari。當然，他們當時距離上一次打進東區決賽僅有一年，球隊渴望找到合適的球星 來搭配Trae Young。 但正如同我們這之後所看到的，老鷹連續兩年在東區第一輪出局且現在僅僅在東區排在第 10名(22-28)，而且他們近期可是已經有了4連勝，這顯然不是他們當時決策想得到的結果 。而且，現年25歲的Young事聯盟唯一一個場均27分10助攻的球員並在星期二第三次入選了 全明星，整個過程並沒有更加...年輕(與Young同字)。 如同近期Marc Stein所報導的，也被The Athletic證實的消息，老鷹第二年擔任總教練的 Quin Snyder被認為主張老鷹應該留住Murray。這種有力的聲音在分析特定交易時肯定能使 房間分裂。 What’s more, the Hawks’ front office, which is now led by general manager Landry Fields, added another key figure recently who is surely weighing in on the conversation. Chris Grant, the former Cleveland Cavaliers general manager who worked with Fields in recent years while with the Spurs, was added by Atlanta as an executive adviser in mid-January. The challenge here for the Hawks, it seems, is that doing this deal without Reaves would do very little to help their chances of winning now. There is value in recouping some of the assets lost in the trade to land Murray, but one first-rounder (and perhaps a first-round swap and/or second-rounders) pales in comparison to what they gave up to get him in 2022. 此外，由Landry Fields所領導的老鷹管理層最近增加了另一個重要人物。前騎士GM Chris Grant(曾經在馬刺與Fields共事數年)在一月中加入亞特蘭大成為執行顧問。 對老鷹來說，挑戰是要在不牽涉Reaves的情況下完成這筆交易，而這對他們現在要贏球的 幫助甚微。雖然重新收回2022為了交易Murray而付出的資產有一些價值，但一個首輪選秀 權(也許還有首輪選秀交換權和/或次輪選秀權)相比於他們在2022年為獲得Murray所付出的 代價則相形見絀。 The question, then, is whether they decide to forge ahead with this flawed roster while waiting until this summer to revisit the Murray market. Young is signed through the 2026-27 campaign, which lessens the pressure a bit when it comes to their star player politics. They’re only 5 1/2 games out of the sixth spot in the East (and the chance to avoid the Play-In Tournament), with recent wins over the Raptors, Lakers, Suns and Warriors (not to mention a close loss Monday night to the red-hot Clippers) showing signs of promise. And considering the way Murray has played of late, waiting this out might be the right move for the Hawks. Since Dec. 31, Murray is averaging 23.7 points (48.4 percent shooting overall; 35.2 percent from 3 on six attempts per), 5.9 rebounds and 5.2 assists. Among players who have played at least 30 games this season, only 11 have reached those 23-5-5 thresholds (Murray is at 21.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 5.2 assists for the season). The eerie quietness of this 2024 trade deadline season, in other words, might continue on this front too. Whether LeBron likes it or not. 那麼問題就是在於他們是否願意在本繼續使用這支有缺陷的陣容並等到夏天再重新考慮 Murray的市場。Young的合約還會到2026-27球季，而這紓解了一些球員政治上的壓力。他 們距離東區第6名僅有5.5場的勝差(並有機會不用打附加賽)，最近對暴龍、湖人、太陽和 勇士的勝利(更不用說周一晚上與快艇激戰的惜敗)展現出了一定的戰力。考量Murray最近 的表現，等待或許才是老鷹應該做的事情。 12/31以來，Murray場均23.7分(48.4% FG 35.2% 3P 6 3PA)5.9籃板即5.2助攻。在本季打 至少30場比賽的球員中，只有11位有達到23-5-5的閥值(Murray整季21.4分5.1籃板5.2助攻 )。 換句話說，這個2024年的交易截止日季節可能在這方面也會繼續保持沉默。無論LeBron是 否喜歡。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 98.217.185.18 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1707278888.A.9FA.html