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[問卦] 為什麼低薪與缺工會同時發生?

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最新2023-07-20 22:39:00
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想請問版上的經濟學專家這個問題: 為什麼缺工與低薪會同時發生? 經濟學的供需理論是不是在台灣就會 自動失去解釋能力呢? 我記得我看大一經濟學課本,作者就 有說供需模型是影響力很大的模型。 可是在台灣竟然會出現這種經典模型 沒辦法解釋的案例嗎? 難道在台灣,勞動力供給是負斜率的 (正常應該是正斜率)?因為負斜率 的狀況在線圖上才會有勞動力供給減 少,均衡價格也減少的現象。 各位經濟學家怎麼看待低薪與缺工同 時發生的現象? -------------------------------- 以下是我問ChatGPT的結果: Q: In the context of labor economics, how do you explain the phenomenon where lack of labor force and low wages coexist? A:The phenomenon where a lack of labor force and low wages coexist can be explained by a combination of factors within the labor market. Here are a few possible explanations: Structural factors: Sometimes there is a mismatch between the skills demanded by employersand the skills possessed by the available workforce. This can lead to a situation where there is a shortage of qualified workers despite a high demand for labor. If the available workforce lacks the necessary skills or qualifications, employers may be unwilling to offer higher wages, resulting in low wages despite a labor shortage. ->即學用落差的意思 Market power imbalances: In some cases, employers may have significant market power, allowing them to set wages below the level that would prevail in a more competitive market. This could be due to a lack of alternative job opportunities for workers or a concentration of power among a few dominant employers. When workers have limited bargaining power, employers can keep wages low despite a labor shortage. ->就是說勞工太過弱勢 Labor market frictions: The presence of various frictions in the labor market, such as information asymmetry or search costs, can contribute to the coexistence of a labor shortage and low wages. If employers have difficulties finding suitable workers or workers have difficulties finding suitable job openings, it can result in a situation where there is a shortage of labor but wages remain low due to the inefficiencies in the matching process. ->老闆找不到可以用的人,勞工找不到適合自己的工作 Institutional factors: Labor market institutions, such as minimum wage laws or collective bargaining agreements, can also play a role in maintaining low wages despite a labor shortage. If minimum wages are set at a level that is relatively low or collective bargaining power is weak, employers may not feel compelled to offer higher wages even when facing a shortage of labor. ->如果基本工資太低,或是勞工太弱勢,雇主就不會感覺到有需要提高工資 It's important to note that these factors can interact with each other, and the specific reasons for the coexistence of a labor shortage and low wages can vary across different industries, regions, and countries. It requires a careful analysis of the specific context and dynamics of the labor market to understand the underlying causes. ->這裡廢話 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.134.5.239 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1686565695.A.1FE.html

269 則留言

owo0204, 1F
簡單講,餅太小,老黃刀法來都沒用180.217.243.237

MrSherlock, 2F
缺奴工118.232.0.27

Defence24, 3F
你不知道有第三隻手伸進來嗎42.73.44.73
那第三隻手是誰?

tctv2002, 4F
因為政府一直補助產業阿223.138.152.119
所以說也不是罵年輕人沒有競爭力這麼簡單,看起來產業沒有競爭力也是事實。

gtsandevo, 5F
一邊慣老闆 一邊啃老族1.200.132.32

babyalley, 6F
缺便宜又好用的奴工114.25.179.149

g1254501, 7F
你都知道供需模型了 兩條線畫一下很難?36.232.121.222

owo0204, 8F
你看那些有產值的產業,人不夠就拉高薪180.217.243.237

owo0204, 9F
180.217.243.237

howard1110, 10F
缺志工和外勞123.241.93.199
大家要記得一起做功德喔!

owo0204, 11F
沒辦法拉高薪水就是沒什麼前景的180.217.243.237

babyalley, 12F
不然資本老闆怎麼躺著買跑車114.25.179.149
關於跑車這類奢侈品,通常是景氣好的時候才會有銷售量,但是產業狀況不好 還去買跑車!?這老闆可能不懂經濟學。

marktak, 13F
因為缺奴隸不好聽101.138.209.153

babyalley, 14F
資本老闆:能躺著買跑車房地產幹嘛升級114.25.179.149

Padfoneman, 15F
假民主真種性啊 薪就那樣等賤民妥協1.200.9.25

babyalley, 16F
產業阿 只要繼續壓榨就好啦114.25.179.149

a8521abcd, 17F
因為台灣大多數產業本身就是垃圾,不125.229.104.8

a0986188522, 18F
缺奴隸112.78.78.182

a8521abcd, 19F
壓薪資他也沒利潤125.229.104.8
這點有學者講過,台灣遍地都是幫人家打工的代工產業,沒有多高的利潤。

kasim15, 20F
因為經濟學是假設理性情況 混蛋不適用123.50.55.35
看來大家都很不滿台灣的產業表現。

deann, 21F
因為是缺奴27.247.129.137

kasim15, 22F
現在就是給政府壓力開放外勞123.50.55.35

xuzx, 23F
外勞太多140.113.136.219

Dia149, 24F
有外勞扛人力薪資不用漲足111.71.54.191

galleon2000, 25F
缺廉價的工阿...很難懂?36.227.90.83

wang111283, 26F
奴隸社會不就是這樣?122.121.171.228

Dia149, 27F
少子化影響讓這一代大部分都不需要為錢擔111.71.54.191

Dia149, 28F
心,有靠山都去創業111.71.54.191
我就蠻擔心的耶。我可能得放棄生兒育女成家立業了,沒錢。

a8521abcd, 29F
拿去國際上比較的話包括台積電都一樣125.229.104.8
※ 編輯: applebg (220.134.5.239 臺灣), 06/12/2023 18:38:34

a8521abcd, 30F
,他們唯一的護城河就是勾結政府跟央125.229.104.8

a8521abcd, 31F
行維持長期低利低薪125.229.104.8

jerrylin, 32F
低薪的產業不缺工36.233.111.198

Dia149, 33F
或是玩自媒體偏門工作不需要正當職業補月111.71.54.191

Dia149, 34F
111.71.54.191

ganbatte, 35F
就成功轉型為高附加價值產業的缺太少223.137.7.26

pptsuck, 36F
台灣玩法 全球唯一60.198.39.23

EEzionT, 37F
大多數的產業就是靠壓榨60.250.204.170

EEzionT, 38F
資本奴隸2020年總該明白了吧60.250.204.170

worshipyou, 39F
很好理解不是嗎42.73.22.244

stygianX, 280F
賺的錢跟以前比起來沒進步,但勞工薪資114.26.106.120

stygianX, 281F
變高,我沒辦法聘請跟以前一樣多人114.26.106.120

stygianX, 282F
我隔壁的眼鏡行是乾脆工讀生也不聘了,114.26.106.120

stygianX, 283F
全部自己來114.26.106.120

stygianX, 284F
這樣的情況下,工作機會是不是變少了?114.26.106.120

juw, 285F
樓上,不是缺工嗎?180.217.159.217