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[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%

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最新2023-12-05 23:24:00
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剛逛FB看到HKEPC轉發VideoCardz的報導 英文來源:VideoCardz https://videocardz.com/newz/up-to-3x-fps-boost-nvidia-and-amd-frame-generation-technologies-can-work-together-in-games-like-cyberpunk-2077 短網址: https://reurl.cc/Ry54Dx 原文(韓文)來源:QuasarZone論壇 https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_plan/views/34540 短網址: https://reurl.cc/r6yxnr VideoCardz報導節錄: The Frame Generation is part of NVIDIA DLSS 3, and it is only supported by NVIDIA RTX 40 graphics. AMD’s Fluid Motion Frames technology is part of the enablement for FSR3 (next-gen upscaling) and HYPR-RX. AMD is working on enabling its frame generation tech separately as part of their driver features. Gamers may now enable AFMF per each supported game, but it requires an AMD driver and GPU present to work. QuasarZone had a crazy idea to combine both NVIDIA’s and AMD’s frame generation to the same graphics pipeline. This means that both GPUs will generate frames and, technically, this should much even higher performance. Spoiler alert, performance is indeed much higher (in some tests) but there are issues that may prevent this idea from making much sense. For starters, to enable FG on both GPUs, two cards are required in the system. The RX 6600 GPU (like in this case) must be connected to the primary monitor, and the game has to be rendered on that monitor as well. Users then must individually select the rendering GPU to RTX 40 graphics (RTX 4090 in this example). The way it works, the game is rendered on RTX 4090 which is using its native DLSS3 FG technology, but the output image is then interpolated by AFMF again, which increases the average framerate by up to 290% compared to native resolution. Without AFMF, it would be around 200% in games like Cyberpunk 2077. ====== The improvement in performance is remarkable. Significant enhancements in average frames per second (FPS) have been achieved. However, the impact on the bottom 1% FPS performance varies depending on the game. In titles like Cyberpunk 2077, the application of AFMF has contributed to the improvement of bottom 1% FPS performance, while in Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, it has, on the contrary, resulted in a decline in bottom 1% FPS. Conversely, in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III 2023, the implementation of AFMF has enhanced the bottom 1% FPS performance, but when used in conjunction with DLSS 3 FG, there is a slight decrease, showcasing differences across games. — QuasarZone ====== As mentioned, this configuration is not without compromises, and it does not always produce the best experience. The average framerate will increase, but the number of the slowest frames (1%) may go lower. This metric is often used to showcase the smoothness of gameplay. In other words, despite an increase in average framerate, the experience may be worse. Furthermore, this setup means that two cards are used, so higher power consumption and exotic GPU setup will enforce full-screen rendering mode, as AFMF does not work in other modes. The Radeon GPU needs to be at least a middle-range one because the AFMF uses 90% of the Radeon RX 6600 GPU, so using cards like the RX 6500 XT might not be enough. We look forward to seeing how modders and gamers take advantage of this these technologies in the future. It is extremely unlikely that AMD and NVIDIA will ever work together to combine their technologies, either officially or unofficially. Moreover, the artificial doubling of already interpolated frames will almost certainly introduce more graphics glitches. For science, however, this seems like a very interesting thing to test. 大意: 韓國人使用RTX 4090 + RX 6600雙卡配置 同時使用N卡FG+A卡AFMF雙補幀 大幅提升遊戲幀數 https://i.imgur.com/zbSwzWg.jpg
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
4090負責渲染遊戲+DLSS3 FG補幀 6600負責AFMF補幀+輸出畫面 設置方法: 跑遊戲的螢幕要插在A卡上 Windows設定內要指定用N卡跑遊戲 A卡驅動內開啟AFMF選項 遊戲要跑在全螢幕 因為AFMF目前只支援全螢幕遊玩 全視窗、視窗化、無邊界模式都不支援 幀數提升可以參考韓文論壇 https://i.imgur.com/7NSQscx.png
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
https://i.imgur.com/7eR1Xk5.png
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
在2077中 平均幀提升291% 1%最低幀提升147% 不過要注意雖然平均幀上升 但有些遊戲的1%幀反而降低 所以遊戲體驗不一定更好 例如COD MW3的1%最低幀在開啟雙補幀後反而略降 https://i.imgur.com/pD19nCG.png
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
https://i.imgur.com/asGvFwa.png
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
結論: https://i.imgur.com/M31NwVE.png
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%
真的有用,但有幾個注意事項/缺點 -不是每個遊戲都更順暢 有些的1%幀反而降低 -AFMF在鏡頭快速變動時會關閉,這點在FG+AFMF也一樣 -韓國作者建議使用支援PCIe x16拆分x8/x8的主機板 -4K遊玩下RX6600沒開AFMF就已經使用40%,開啟後使用率達90% 加上作者用6500XT除了效能低落外還遇到閃退重開等穩定性問題 因此建議使用6600以上的A卡 - 一個補幀不夠 你有試過用兩個嗎XD 感覺很像A卡以前的FM 也是可以N+A雙卡配置 N卡拿來跑遊戲 A卡負責輸出跟影片補幀 只是現在是補遊戲 我大二組第一台電腦也是裝N+A 不過可能是驅動打架的緣故常常藍屏 加上對我而言實用度不高 後來就改回單卡設置了 韓國作者也提到這玩法的效益問題 畢竟要考慮驅動、主板相容性 以及多插一張卡而增加的功耗等等 值不值得這樣玩就看個人了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 118.231.200.199 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1701447975.A.721.html

116 則留言

LeoYuri, 1F
我也想過用n+i卡,i卡還能用deeplink跟i27.53.162.46

LeoYuri, 2F
內顯連動27.53.162.46

LeoYuri, 3F
i卡驅動應該比較不會打架27.53.162.46

wahaha99, 4F
....有病(稱讚的意味)118.169.3.196

mrme945, 5F
有趣耶111.71.216.4

otosaka, 6F
如果插7000系列的A卡會補的更有效率嗎36.230.189.115

ArSaBuLu, 7F
天下大勢 分久必合 合久必分180.217.19.104

Litfal, 8F
可以這樣補了又補 補了再補的嗎1.34.131.99

mrme945, 9F
7000系比較省電一點點,應該效率會更好一111.71.216.4

mrme945, 10F
些吧111.71.216.4

ByPass128, 11F
之後可以直接用新apu補ㄇ?101.136.177.26

sincere77, 12F
感覺延遲多少也會增加60.154.118.126

E7lijah, 13F
作者沒有對延遲作描述 但N卡將渲染好的幀118.231.200.199

E7lijah, 14F
交給A卡再處理 應該是會有延遲增加118.231.200.199

E7lijah, 15F
6600都滿吃力了 APU會操到掛掉或閃退吧118.231.200.199

jior, 16F
我補幀你的補幀!!!!101.10.58.91

henryliao, 17F
紅綠一家親 一起補幀1.170.75.74

CORYCHAN, 18F
好酷122.121.209.236

annboy, 19F
這是神人吧42.79.68.173

nrxadsl, 20F
兩張中階,打得贏4080嗎114.24.198.22

lazioliz, 21F
不是啊 問題在延遲啊116.89.138.137

AreLies, 22F
這樣我用4070Ti搭6900XT可以任性了36.238.16.118

Lowpapa, 23F
有創意36.231.109.44

maninpink, 24F
另外 現在能支援x8/x8的平台幾乎只111.249.183.248

maninpink, 25F
有旗艦主機板才有支援111.249.183.248

E7lijah, 26F
也是可以用晶片組的x4槽試試啦 只是效能118.231.200.199

E7lijah, 27F
可能會折損118.231.200.199

nthank, 28F
蠻有趣的 搞這件事 比玩遊戲 本身還快樂1.34.179.39

speed7022, 29F
玩個遊戲一半以上的畫面都不是真的XD1.162.45.36

oppoR20, 30F
有生之年看得到紅綠藍三家一起疊buff嗎42.77.73.18

oppoR20, 31F
我要10倍的fps42.77.73.18

E7lijah, 32F
RGB世紀大合體是吧118.231.200.199

jhjhs33504, 33F
木桶效應36.228.23.6

x9898997, 34F
以前的an交火玩法122.121.78.26

ziggs8308, 35F
摻在一起做撒尿牛丸啊42.72.33.114

Xperia9900KS, 36F
AFMF可以無邊寬跟視窗模式使用喔101.137.155.187

nucleargod, 37F
雙卡直接 TR 就可以開滿兩張都 x16 啦118.167.6.4

UrFather, 38F
sick113.61.128.20

IsonaEi, 39F
這延遲不高嗎?123.194.152.143

lyd0602, 106F
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%

lyd0602, 107F
N+A+I https://imgur.com/TYMZHfa1.170.185.12
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%

yafx4200p, 108F
供電效能如何114.34.80.63

narukaza, 109F
[情報] 韓國論壇玩家使用N+A雙補幀 提升達290%

nwkasim, 110F
NA紅綠一家親,再推出AI合體運算會飛天101.10.57.170

Arbin, 111F
intel再來參一咖 三位一體(?111.82.41.241

canandmap, 112F
RGB36.228.148.65

iPhoneX, 113F
那張4090看起來快吸不到氣了122.116.56.18

RONC, 114F
有測輸出延遲嗎?27.242.2.12

E7lijah, 115F
沒 他沒測延遲 至少他沒說39.9.136.150

Wilson310, 116F
有料欸,推有錢大哥試試111.82.101.219