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[外電] 2018ALCS之前的會議預告了太空人作弊的命運

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來源: NY POST 網址: https://tinyurl.com/rsrnwra ‘We’re dead’: The ominous ALCS meeting that foretold Astros cheating doom "我們死定了": 2018年ALCS前的會議預告了太空人作弊的命運 Joe Torre reportedly warned the Astros and Red Sox what was going to happen if they were in fact cheating. 據報導,Joe Torre曾經警告過太空人以及紅襪若是他們真的有作弊的話,結果會是如 何。 By then, it was already too late. 不過在那時候,一切都來不及了。 Torre met with the Astros and Red Sox before they faced off in the 2018 ALCS and warned them that any secret cheating — like illegal sign stealing — they may have been doing would not remain a secret forever, according to ESPN ’s Karl Ravech. The meeting included the general managers and managers from both teams — Jeff Luhnow, Dave Dombrowski, AJ Hinch and Alex Cora — and was led by Torre, MLB’s chief baseball officer at the time. 根據ESPN記者Karl Ravech的報導,在2018 ALCS開始前,Torre跟太空人以及紅襪開會過, 並且警告他們任何偷偷來的作弊--像是非法偷暗號--這些行為不會一直都不被爆出來的。 那場會議參與的包括兩邊的總管以及總教練--Jeff Luhnow,Dave Dombrowski,AJ Hinch 跟Alex Cora--以及主持這場會議,當時擔任聯盟棒球長的Joe Torre。 “Torre basically said to the teams, both of them and those people and anyone else that was in the room, look, if you’re inclined or have gotten away with or are doing anything that would violate the rules that you are all aware of or should be aware of, you’re gonna have to understand at some point, there’ s going to be a player, or players or a front office person that’s going to leave your team, go to another team and basically rat you guys out. Basically tell the dirty secrets,” Ravech said on ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight” podcast. 「Torre基本上跟這兩隊以及那間會議室裡的其他人說,聽著,若是有人想要做,或者已經 做過但是沒被抓到,或是正在做有違反規則的行為,而且也知道是違反規則或者是應該要 知道是違反規則的,一定會有個球員,或是幾個球員,或是制服組裡的人,他們可能要離 開你們去別的球隊,他們就會把你們供出來,把這些骯髒事都抖出來,」Ravech在ESPN的 podcast節目上說到。 “Whether Joe Torre was aware at that point of what was coming from Mike Fiers, and there’s no evidence to believe that, but I was told that message and that meeting scared the heck out of those guys in that room to the point that they acknowledged ‘we’re in trouble, we’re dead, so we cannot continue to particular behavior.’ In the case of the person or persons that told me that, the behavior changed.” 「不管Joe Torre是不是已經知道Mike Fiers的事情,目前的證據也不支持,但是我有聽到 那場會議以及會議裡講的訊息真的嚇到那些人,嚇到他們真的了解到"我們有麻煩了,我們 死定了,我們不能再繼續做那些奇怪的事了"。跟我講的人他說,他們行為有改變了。」 Of course, it was Fiers — a pitcher on the 2017 Astros now with the Athletics — who finally went public in November and told The Athletic about the club’s illegal sign-stealing program. That led to MLB investigating the claims in full and outing the Astros as cheaters during the 2017 season and part of 2018. 當然,是因為Fiers--2017年太空人的投手現在是在運動家--在11月的時候出來爆料,跟球 隊講有關非法偷暗號的事情,這才讓聯盟出來調查發現太空人在2017年以及2018年部分球 季有作弊。 The Red Sox, who went on to win the ALCS and World Series after Torre’s meeting, are still under investigation for allegedly using electronics to steal signs in 2018. The final MLB report on the findings has been pushed back after commissioner Rob Manfred originally said he hoped to have it done by the start of spring training. 在跟Torre會面後,紅襪那年是拿下ALCS以及世界大賽冠軍,現在則是因為2018年被控使用 電子儀器偷暗號在調查中。原本主席Rob Manfred是說希望在春訓前可以有完整報告,不過 目前是暫時推遲的。 The fallout of the Red Sox investigation is not believed to be as harsh as it was for the Astros, according to multiple reports. But the longer it is drawn out, the more questions surround it. 根據一些報導,紅襪調查報告的結果不認為會跟太空人一樣慘。但是拖的越久,會引發更 多的疑問。 “The length of time this is taking is uncomfortable, let’s put it that way, ” Ravech said. 「我們可以這樣說, 調查這件事所花的時間讓人很不舒服,」Ravech說。 MLB suspended Luhnow and Hinch for a year — before the Astros promptly fired them both — fined the club $5 million and docked them draft picks. Cora, who was Hinch’s bench coach in 2017, parted ways with the Red Sox for his role in the scandal. 聯盟給了Luhnow跟Hinch一年水桶--之後太空人就把這兩人給開除了--球團被罰了500萬鎂 以及選秀簽。Cora是2017年太空人的板凳教練,也因為他在這醜聞裡的角色跟紅襪分道揚 鑣。 -- 死得好 -- #1RelwrS2 (MLB) 標題 [閒聊] 躲人Puig家裡過去一年半被闖空門四次
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※ 編輯: pneumo (124.218.53.71 臺灣), 02/29/2020 23:11:26

c871111116, 1F
難怪都在作弊 畢竟看起來沒影響

Valter, 2F
真的跟太空人一樣慘感覺也還好耶

noahlin, 3F
懲罰這麼輕叫死定了 球員都全身而退

mrlucas8891, 4F
死定了 可是還沒死 還在外面活蹦亂跳的 安啦沒事

alcard22, 5F
說是死定了卻是這種懲罰,連小朋友都笑了吧

k33536, 6F
很慘嗎? 目前為止不會啊

alcard22, 7F
根本沒什麼好怕的啊XD

flexin, 8F
有怎樣嗎?作弊仔爽拿冠軍,還能出來講幹話,開嘲諷,歡

flexin, 9F
迎來到真實世界XD

JungLi5566, 10F
Mike Fiers不是早就跟綠帽球團說.綠帽跟聯盟反應被吃

JungLi5566, 11F
案才自己找媒體爆料.

freezeraven, 12F
說個笑話 2017WS

Roshiel, 13F
Manfred:喔。(挖鼻孔)

plug, 14F
死定了的是MLB的收視群收視率,觀眾發現被騙走人

fhsf, 15F
不是阿,我看你們現在也是過的挺好的呢:)

c871111116, 16F
剛剛才看到原來昨天某粉專還開群嘲

c871111116, 17F
看來從上到下都過得很好呢~

kltnlious, 18F
拖瑞爺應該作主席才對..

JustinIdiot, 19F
某角落表示:

Redchain, 20F
聯盟也怕被抖出來說「當年早就知道」才那麼軟嗎?

starchiang, 21F
大聯盟重新定義「死定了」

catsondbs, 22F
2018年肯定已經有人跟大聯盟爆料了吧 只是隱瞞不處理

wx190, 23F
是我標準高還是這篇標準低 這樣死定

edhuang, 24F
不認為跟太空人一樣慘………太空人有慘?

a2156700, 25F
完全沒事啊 爽

a2156700, 26F
還好當時有偷

aikotoba, 27F
所以官方早就知情 藏不住才處理?

Parazicecum, 28F
嚇到啥? 根本沒受罰啊 還囂張的咧

bestteam, 29F
狹路相逢勇者勝 怕的就輸了

whhw, 30F
沒事兒沒事

MoWilliams, 31F
MLB得處罰很輕阿 哪有死定了的感覺

ennakura, 32F
打錯了辣 We 're Dad才對 阿曼跟克仔是老爸會罩你

ennakura, 33F
所以代表其他被影射的四隊下庄了? 沒被聯盟找啊

ennakura, 34F
啊沒事 單純這兩隊互打所以沒任何關連

youngpaper, 35F
we是說這兩隊以外的人吧 拉基

justlovean, 36F
作弊的還嗆人 過得很爽啊

synchron, 37F
問題是結果論也沒有死定了啊

MFultz20, 38F
壞掉的只有名聲,但是好名聲有可能拿不到大約跟冠軍,作

MFultz20, 39F
弊可以

BMW740Li, 57F
重新定義 死定了

ThomasHSNU, 58F
https://es.pn/39XjwW6 MLB早被通知Astros的事沒行動

whalefirst, 59F
不痛不癢的懲罰。。。

Syd, 60F
死定了? 誰?

hpisok, 61F
死定了死定了(翹腳摳鼻)

a2156700, 62F
辣雞聯盟

Sechslee, 63F
笑死的嗎?

moc999, 64F
罰這麼輕叫死定了XD

yeng1217, 65F
HBP多吃幾顆再來哎

nomo1616, 66F
好弱的死定了

BARGARYARLOO, 67F
有個疑問 去年世界大賽太空在主場有作弊嗎

Roshiel, 68F
樓上,七場全作弊

ennakura, 69F
我們死定了 伊莎貝爾

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