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[外電] 太空人真的是被故意砸嗎?

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最新2020-03-02 09:53:00
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https://bre.is/dbR6DXEM The narrative is spreading rapidly in the early days of spring training, told with a certain taste of glee. The Astros are getting hit by a lot of pitches! The cheaters are getting their comeuppance! They're already being targeted and it's not even the regular season! There are Twitter accounts with names like Astros* Bean Counter and 2020 Astros Shame Tour tracking all the hit batters. Non-sports sites are publishing videos on Facebook. The "Today" show did a segment on it Friday morning. My friend Dan tells me that even his mom mentioned to him that the Astros are getting hit a lot. 故事已在早前的春訓期間被以某種帶有喜悅的方式迅速傳開。休士頓太空人要吃一堆觸身 球了!這些作弊仔正在接受他們的報應!他們早就已經被鎖定了,而且這只是春訓還沒開季 !推特上有一些帳號像是「太空人*統計專家」、「2020太空人羞恥巡迴之旅」正在追蹤這 些被丟的打者。一些非體育網站也在Facebook上發表影片,「今日」節目就在周五早上的 節目中將這些片段分門別類。我的好友Dan跟我說連他媽都跟他提到太空人正在吃一堆觸 身球。 The narrative isn't completely wrong, but let's put this in some context. As always, context is important and hyperbole can be misleading. 這些故事不全然是錯的,但讓我們考慮一下整件事情的脈絡。就像每件事一樣,脈絡是非 常重要的,一些太過誇張的說法可能會誤導他人。 Entering Friday's spring training games, the Astros have been hit by seven pitches. That's no longer the most; the Cardinals have been hit by eight pitches -- and they certainly are not being targeted for anything this spring. Four other teams have been hit by six pitches, including the Tigers, and nobody is purposely throwing at batters from a team that lost 114 games last season. 統計至周五的春訓熱身賽,太空人隊被7顆觸身球伺候。但那並不是最多---紅雀隊吃了8顆 ---我確定他們這個春天並沒有因為任何事情而被「鎖定」。除了太空人和紅雀外,還有4 支球隊也被丟了6次,包括底特律老虎,大概沒人會想特別丟一支去年輸了114場球賽的球 隊。 Also, consider the seven Astros who have been hit: 再來,看看這七個被丟的球員: -- Dustin Garneau -- Jose Altuve -- Alex De Goti -- Osvaldo Duarte -- Aledmys Diaz -- Jake Meyers -- Alex Bregman OK, so we do have Altuve and Bregman. But we also have three low-level minor leaguers; Garneau, who wasn't a member of the Astros until this season; and Diaz, who wasn't on the Astros in 2017 or 2018. Altuve and Bregman weren't even hit by fastballs. Altuve was hit on the foot with a breaking ball and Bregman hit in the back by Cardinals minor leaguer Ramon Santos, who pitched for Palm Beach in the Florida State League last season. 好,所以裡面有Altuve跟Bregman。但我們也發現三個小聯盟球員---Garneau,今年才成為 一名太空人;Diaz,2017、2018都不在太空人陣中。此外,Altuve和Bregman也不是被直球 丟中。Altuve是被一顆變化球砸到腳,Bregman則是被紅雀的小聯盟投手Ramon Santos砸到 背。 "It was a splitter. It just got away from him," Bregman said. 「那是一顆快速指叉球。他只是失投而已。」 Bregman說道 Indeed, check out the pitchers who have hit the Astros batters: Austin Voth (Nationals), Neil Ramirez (Tigers), Anthony Castro 2 (Tigers), Jose Urena (Marlins), Jorge Guzman (Marlins), Ramon Santos (Cardinals). 確實,觀察這些丟太空人的投手 Of the six pitchers, only three pitched in the majors in 2019. With the exception of Urena, these are all pitchers fighting for jobs who are trying to impress the big league brass. They're not going to intentionally throw at batters. Castro is a Tigers minor leaguer who hit nine batters last season and 15 in 2018. 在這六個投手中,只有三個曾經於2019在大聯盟出賽。除了Urena之外,這些投手都正在 努力投出好表現以尋求一份大聯盟工作。他們並不是故意要把球丟向打者。Castro是一名 老虎隊的小聯盟球員,在2019賽季投出9顆觸身球,在2018年賽季則丟了15次。 Urena did hit Diaz on the elbow with a fastball and he's the pitcher who purposely hit Ronald Acuna Jr. in 2018, but it's clear from Urena's reaction as he immediately screams in disgust at himself that he wasn't trying to hit Diaz. Plus, why would Urena be throwing at a guy who wasn't on the team in 2017? Urena確實用速球丟了Diaz的手肘,同時他也是2018賽季故意丟Ronald Acuna Jr.的那個人 。但從Urena的反應可以知道他並不是故意要丟Diaz的---他在投出觸身球後發出怒吼。而 且,為何Urena要丟一個2017不在太空人的球員呢? So there really is nothing to what we've seen so far. 所以到目前為止,這些事情真的都沒甚麼好拿來做文章的。 There is plenty to write about regarding the fallout from the cheating scandal without resorting to false narratives. Astros players are getting loudly booed during spring training games and we've seen the video of the Mets fan pounding a plastic garbage can in the left-field bleachers. Those boos will only get louder in the regular season. How the Astros deal with becoming baseball's Evil Empire will be a huge storyline once the season begins. 關於作弊醜聞的後續效應實在有一堆可以寫,但其不包含訴諸假新聞這件事。太空人球員 在春訓期間一直被球迷噓,我們也可以看到大都會球迷在場外大聲敲垃圾桶的影片。這些 噓聲到了例行賽只會變大不會變小。太空人會怎麼處理其變成棒球界邪惡帝國將會成為賽 季初大家關注的故事。 It's also certainly possible that once the regular season begins, we will see some pitchers throwing at Astros batters. The William Hill sportsbook put the over/under on Astros batters getting hit by a pitch at 83.5 -- they were hit 66 times last season -- but that's not an especially large total as Mets batters led the majors with 95 HBPs in 2019. 同樣非常可能發生的是,我們將會看到一些投手把球朝太空人打者身上丟。博彩公司The William Hill sportbook 將太空人被擊中的高低分定在83.5---他們上一季被丟了66次 ---那對於大都會球員吃的95顆來說並不算太多。 But let's wait and see if that actually happens. Because Anthony Castro hitting Jake Meyers has nothing to do with the Astros banging garbage cans in 2017. 讓我們期待這一切到底會不會發生,因為Anthony Castro 丟 Jake Meyers 也無關太空 人2017年時bang bang 垃圾桶。 心得: 這篇分析還不錯 大家能接受嗎? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.119.134.112 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1582942590.A.954.html

43 則留言

k33536, 1F
只是手滑 沒4兒

c871111116, 2F
標題應該是被故意砸的比較好吧

c871111116, 3F
第一眼看這標題還以為在說太空人故意給球砸的..
XDD 感謝c大提醒

Jiunyin, 4F
是不是故意的沒差啦 反正砸越多我越爽

JustinIdiot, 5F
應該說統計至禮拜五的春訓 而不是"在禮拜五的春訓…"

JustinIdiot, 6F
這差別很大
感謝J大! 已修正 文字太多有點眼花@@

Timekeeper, 7F
推分析 希望道奇隊的投手群能硬起來
※ 編輯: currykukuo (140.119.134.112 臺灣), 02/29/2020 10:39:18

ray41705, 8F
推J大專業 好久不見

iamanidiot, 9F
合理 等基躲

terminator3, 10F
原來還不是 噓 給我丟起來啊

classskipper, 11F
William Hill是博彩公司,所以那一段的upper under

classskipper, 12F
其實是在講賭盤
我有看出是博彩公司 但我其實不太會那個的正確譯名 感謝c大補充 已修正
※ 編輯: currykukuo (140.119.134.112 臺灣), 02/29/2020 11:31:40

sikerkuaitai, 13F
不管啦太空人被砸就是爽 誰管失手還是故意 待在太空

sikerkuaitai, 14F
人就是助紂為虐 氣氣氣氣氣

lurker777, 15F
蠻意外Correa還沒被砸欸

mrlucas8891, 16F
合約在身上是要怎麼不待在太空人= = 不待的話那些損

mrlucas8891, 17F
失的錢是你要幫他出是不是

mrlucas8891, 18F
像假如Diaz那天那顆觸身球是故意的那我覺得他很可憐

mrlucas8891, 19F
啊 坐板凳的新人被砸還有人叫好是不是太浮誇了點

lala31446, 20F
熱身賽投手也要找位子如何觸身才不會被禁賽

jackytao, 21F
推這篇分析

scheiss, 22F
大家現在應該比較想砸主席吧

whhw, 23F

apple8335, 24F
投手熱身而已

ylrafale, 25F
個人不認為該故意砸他們w

Rayshief, 26F
拜託快給我丟丟

KillLakers, 27F
道奇加油 期待全丟太鼓主力~~~~~~~~~~~~~

TZephyr, 28F
丟到小聯盟的應該都不是故意的啦

johnnychiou, 29F
新人或是小聯盟球員被砸 難道也要拍手叫好?

borriss, 30F
春訓真的控球沒到位 <========> 可以隨便砸(X

chen5512, 31F
不要只要是太空人球員就通殺啊!作弊的那些人才是禍首

jmorpheus, 32F
還在熱身而已

taxlaw1991, 33F
沒辦法啊 Manfred和Clark就是不說誰作弊啊

classskipper, 34F
我後來想想upper under可以翻成盤口

Kuba4ma, 35F
小聯盟投手是要砸個毛

wx190, 36F
反正挨幾球聯盟老爸就出來擋了

hoos891405, 37F
小聯盟的要用變化球故意砸了話,搞不好變暴投

polanco, 38F
看成故意被砸 還想說他們有這麼M嗎

bond30422, 39F
被打到頭胸我才信啦~土立土及人

ultratimes, 40F
真的砸應該趁現在不影響戰績的時候吧

ultratimes, 41F
不然開季後 你砸他們 他們上壘後就換你當肥料了

ps20012001, 42F
又不是每個人都是Greg Maddux...

SC30mvp, 43F
失投錯了ㄇ