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Fw: [新聞]美國:台積造的晶片最後跑到中國對台導彈裡

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最新2019-11-08 13:12:00
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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1TmR6n_0 ] 作者: kyle5241 (Kyle Korver) 看板: Gossiping 標題: [新聞]美國:台積造的晶片最後跑到中國對台導彈裡 時間: Wed Nov 6 01:30:23 2019 1.媒體來源: WCCFTECH 2.記者署名 Rohail Saleem 3.完整新聞標題: TSMC’s Semiconductors Ending up in Chinese Missile Guidance Systems Aimed at Taiwan, as per U.S. Officials 美國官員說:台積電生產的半導體最後會跑到中國對台導彈的導航系統中 4.完整新聞內文: According to Financial Times, the Trump administration has been pressing Taiwan to restrain the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) (TPE:2330), the world’s largest contract chipmaker, from selling its semiconductors to Huawei – the Chinese telecoms and tech behemoth at the epicenter of the ongoing Sino-U.S. trade war – and to institute firmer technology export controls vis-a-vis China. 過去一年,川普不斷地施壓台灣去限制台積電對中國的出口 Over the past year, Washington’s officialdom has repeatedly conveyed to the Taiwanese government the urgency of curbing TSMC’s continuing sale of sensitive components to Chinese entities in general and Huawei in particular. The driving force behind this concerted push stems from the widespread belief in Washington that China has been, for some time now, engaging in an ever-increasing pace of technology transfer from the civilian sector to the military one. This, in turn, has given rise to the Trump administration’s concerns that China is able to procure the required sensitive components for its military through the commercial civilian trade. 華盛頓不斷地傳達管制台積電繼續銷售中國的急迫性。因為中國不斷地的加速把技術 從民間轉移到軍用。 Last month, a U.S. official informed Taiwanese diplomats that the semiconductors produced by TSMC and then procured by Huawei, were ending up in Chinese missile guidance systems aimed at Taiwan, as per the reporting by Financial Times. 上個月,美國官員告訴台灣外交人員,台積製造給華為的半導體,已經跑到了中國 對準台灣的飛彈導航系統裡面了。 "US officials often have conversations with Taiwan interlocutors about the security and end-use of their technology supply chains. We have similar general export control and non-proliferation conversations with many partners, ” the official said. 美國官員不斷地跟台灣講要對安全和它們科技的終端使用進行管制,美國也有同樣 類似的出國限制措施。 “In this particular case, we have a partner that is under a direct military threat from China, and is also one of the few places that produce certain technologies China needs to support its military ambitions.” 在這個特例裡,我們的夥伴最面對中國直接的軍事威脅,但它又幫中國製造中國 所需要的武器 Of course, this conversation has been occurring in the wider context of the Sino-U.S. trade war that has seen reprisals and counter moves from both sides. Earlier in June, the U.S. Commerce Department added the Chinese tech behemoth Huawei to the Entities List over national security concerns and for violating U.S. sanctions on Iran (read our related coverage here). The step bars Huawei from seeking sensitive components from American companies without a prior approval from Trump administration. Thereafter, in August, the Trump administration barred the use of federal grants for the purchase of telecommunications equipment from five Chinese entities including Huawei. The blacklisting of Huawei has disproportionately benefited TSMC. According to Randy Abrams, the head of regional semiconductor research at Credit Suisse, China accounted for about 20 percent of TSMC’s revenue in the third quarter of 2019 with Huawei constituting almost half of that proportion. This means that Huawei was directly responsible for about 10 percent of TSMC’s total revenue in the quarter. Consequently, given the lucrative financial stakes involved, industry experts remain skeptical that Washington can force Taiwan’s hand in this matter. Randy Abrams believes that “if the Taiwan government were to force TSMC to drop Huawei as a customer, the stock market would react unfavorably.” 目前中國佔台積電20%的營收,其中華為就佔了10% Though Taipei has declined to directly comment on this matter, the spokesperson for Taiwanese President has said that “Taiwan’s technology industry strictly respects international rules and continues to co-operate with major countries including the US.” 5.完整新聞連結 (或短網址): https://tinyurl.com/y3gjp5vz ※ 當新聞連結過長時,需提供短網址方便網友點擊 6.備註: 想到之前有個中國笑話 世界上最大的半導體製造公司在哪?在中國,在中國的台灣 老實說中國的導彈上的晶片,沒什麼意外應該也都是台積造的 這樣想想好像還真的有管制的理由 要不然就是把同樣的技術用在台灣的導彈上 台積電變成LBJ了嗎? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 131.215.107.226 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1572975025.A.FC0.html

434 則留言

AN94, 1F
白痴 有種台灣也別買中國貨啊36.227.96.17

ckbdfrst, 2F
熱列希望美國強迫台GG禁供貨給華為61.224.189.163

Royalweger, 3F
反正就看老美要不要做而已114.44.142.178

yu1111116, 4F
全球的導彈 都有GG的晶片36.233.177.13

nfsong, 5F
禁止台GG 代工 最後就是大陸定ASML36.229.222.141

NSKB, 6F
哈哈,崩潰123.194.15.150

zeze, 7F
111.246.10.89

nfsong, 8F
機台 自己生產36.229.222.141

victoryuy, 9F
美國人又要叫小弟當馬前卒了220.132.75.50

zeze, 10F
等這一刻等很久了111.246.10.89

kuma660224, 11F
飛彈其實不太需要先進處理能力61.231.33.165

nfsong, 12F
又在白癡了 中芯也不是不能生產36.229.222.141

l11111111, 13F
關中國貨屁事 具有軍用可能的產品本來36.234.55.139

l11111111, 14F
就該管制 就連台灣要和美國買電子零件36.234.55.139

yafx4200p, 15F
會怕喔101.12.210.92

l11111111, 16F
有些還要申請 問題是在怎麼區分該管制36.234.55.139

kuma660224, 17F
GG生產的晶片主要是用在雷達射控電腦61.231.33.165

l11111111, 18F
的零件36.234.55.139

SupCat, 19F
支那喊的很驚人 結果也是真香110.26.62.171

scu96, 20F
飛彈幾十年了好嗎 又在掰新聞114.37.184.69

cp109, 21F
..好啦 一堆國家軍隊都用微軟系統1.164.90.210

kuma660224, 22F
中國軍用華睿系列的確GG代工61.231.33.165

kuma660224, 23F
但那種DSP處理器是軍民兩用61.231.33.165

nctugoodman, 24F
這樣GG反而更應該繼續阿,偷ˇ改晶片114.36.185.75

hijacker, 25F
通常武器裡面的晶片都不是最先進的製程123.192.194.246

kuma660224, 26F
GG難以預測對方會用到什麼裝備61.231.33.165

ckbdfrst, 27F
奇怪了 虫國不是說虫國自己啥都會生產嗎61.224.189.163

MoeFeather, 28F
不買台灣的也會買別的地方的42.76.51.174

kuma660224, 29F
對岸華睿也不想用中芯, 因為太廢了61.231.33.165

ckbdfrst, 30F
幹嘛來真香台灣啊 啊不就真香 蟈人61.224.189.163

l11111111, 31F
說支那自己買機台就能生產的也好笑 早36.234.55.139

l11111111, 32F
就投幾百億下去做不知道幾年了 根本做36.234.55.139

l11111111, 33F
不出來懂嗎36.234.55.139

kuma660224, 34F
雖然軍規不需先進製程, 但仍希望成熟61.231.33.165

amos30627, 35F
軍用又不用多好技術和良率 幹麻要用GG111.254.42.179

kuma660224, 36F
可靠...不想當爛製程的白老鼠61.231.33.165

kuma660224, 37F
產品延誤或出包。很麻煩影響長官仕途61.231.33.165

amos30627, 38F
是說這樣架構設計的軍事祕密不會外流>111.254.42.179

kenichisun, 39F
直接把台灣列入美國一州就卡死華為啊110.28.5.155

M1004218, 423F
買來就會做就不用高薪拐臺灣工程師了

kuma660224, 424F
先進製程買設備長期做不出來的多的是...

kuma660224, 425F
這跟規格停滯,傳產化的面板或太陽能不一樣

kuma660224, 426F
還有受限瓦聖納軍民兩用技術管制的疑慮

kuma660224, 427F
美帝使個眼色,歐美日供應商就會拖延阻礙

lionqaz, 428F
台積電已經表明要研發追蹤系統,晶片用到哪裡都知道。

kuma660224, 429F
不過那個不是從晶片開後門追查

kuma660224, 430F
而是整個國際產銷體系的查核

kuma660224, 431F
敏感國客戶買代工晶片,可能要負擔額外成本

kuma660224, 432F
轉賣給誰,用到哪裡,甚至晶片那打標記

kuma660224, 433F
出現在不對的地方,可查出原出貨給誰

kuma660224, 434F
然後證據呈請美國乾爹,表示我管理盡責了

kuma660224, 435F
你若要懲罰那些客戶,所需證據儘管用

kuma660224, 436F
客戶不能裝傻

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