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[爆卦] 烏克蘭指控匈牙利與俄羅斯利用ROC交易戰俘

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Hungary confirms the statement of the Russian Orthodox Church on the transfer of Ukrainian prisoners of war. Kyiv does not know about this https://babel.ua/en/news/94892-hungary-confirms-the-statement-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-on-the-transfer-of-ukrainian-prisoners-of-war-kyiv-does-not-know-about-this Hungary confirmed that the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) returned to it 11 Ukrainian servicemen of Transcarpathian origin from captivity. This was stated by the Deputy Prime Minister of Hungary Zholt Shemien, who is also responsible for church affairs, in a comment to the Hungarian publication atv. "This is my human and patriotic duty," Zholt Chemien noted. The Ukrainian side did not know about it and was not involved in the process in any way. In a comment to "Babel", the representative of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (MDI) Andriy Yusov stated that the issue of prisoners of war is dealt with exclusively by the Coordination Headquarters, with which neither the ROC nor Hungary contacted. Currently, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the State Government are establishing all the circumstances, clarifying the names of those released and working on their return. On June 8, the Russian Orthodox Church informed that it had handed over to Hungary Ukrainian prisoners of war of Transcarpathian origin who took part in hostilities. 匈牙利證實 俄羅斯利用Russian Orthodox Church (ROC 東正教會) 向匈牙利歸還11位 喀爾巴阡山脈的烏克蘭軍人 Press conference by Ukrainian POWs in Hungary to denounce Ukraine, praise Russian Orthodox Church https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/06/10/press-conference-by-ukrainian-pows-in-hungary-to-denounce-ukraine-praise-russian-orthodox-church/ 烏克蘭戰俘 在匈牙利開記者會控訴烏克蘭強迫動員 Ukrainian prisoners of war in Hungary are reportedly preparing to publicly criticize Ukraine and express gratitude to the Russian Orthodox Church, as part of a mandatory condition for their release from Russia. Ukrainian prisoners of war who were transferred to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) instead of going to Ukraine are reportedly preparing for a press conference, where they are expected to criticize Ukraine and express gratitude to the ROC, the Ukrainian media RBK reports, citing its sources in Ukrainian intelligence. According to the source, making such statements was a mandatory condition for their release from Russia. The prisoners are said to be under armed guard, with their location undisclosed to Ukraine and no contact allowed. “At the press conference, the captives are supposed to talk about how they were allegedly forcibly mobilized, the supposed harsh conditions they fought in, the excellent Hungarian government, and the ROC, among other things. This public activity, including criticism of Ukraine and gratitude towards the ROC, was voiced to Ukrainian prisoners as a mandatory condition for their release from Russia,” RBC’s source in the intelligence revealed. A representative of the Ukrainian Defense Intelligence Directorate confirmed that the prisoners’ whereabouts were being kept secret from Ukraine, and they were still unable to move freely or return to Ukraine. https://uaposition.com/main/analysis-opinion/orbans-11-hostages-how-russian-orthodox-church-and-russian-authorities-trade-ukrainians-with-the-hungarian-government/ Orban’s 11 hostages: how Russian Orthodox Church and Russian authorities “ trade” Ukrainians with the Hungarian government 烏克蘭官員指控 這是匈牙利與俄羅斯利用ROC進行人口交易 喔對了 很多人看到這里 可能會覺得奇怪 為什麼烏克蘭人要在匈牙利開記者會 而且匈牙利會接受烏克蘭戰俘 因為這些是烏克蘭與匈牙利爭議地區的匈牙利族 同時具有匈牙利籍 在離境時被征招入伍 甚至有部分人指出 烏克蘭刻意在邊境守株待兔征招匈牙利族 我也在和我匈牙利朋友查查匈牙利的輿論情況 ㄎㄎ -- ▁▁ ▕民進▏ 注意此ID已被國防布認證中共同路人 ▕堂章▏ ㄟ( ̄▽ ̄)ㄟ  ̄ ̄ 月巴m就在你身邊 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.9.247.32 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1686753886.A.578.html

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※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/14/2023 22:46:41

Golbeza, 1F
抓到了ROC!!114.37.48.102

jma306, 2F
ROC114.26.101.234

chadmu, 3F
古巴共和國?220.129.198.97

wilson3435, 4F
嚇死我了218.35.143.24

Warheart, 5F
我們沒有 不是我們 別亂說192.166.247.157

negotiates, 6F
抓到 ROC的藍白粉又在害人了180.217.71.147

spirit119, 7F
匈牙利是俄羅斯同路人 不意外101.139.237.118

namelessSZY, 8F
抓到49.159.76.20

ralfeistein, 9F
抓到 又ROC223.141.254.15

www115ui8, 10F
開戰初期在邊境徵召是常有的事39.14.38.119

itwt, 11F
匈牙利就愛挺俄,挺到被抓去當兵XD223.139.129.214
不是匈牙利人 是居住在烏克蘭的匈牙利族 匈牙利和烏克蘭 幾年前還在邊境爭議地區對峙過

HNCB2880, 12F
台灣又搞事了114.136.239.71
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/14/2023 22:58:10

physicsdk, 13F
上面是有沒有看清楚,現在疑似是烏在114.136.162.236

physicsdk, 14F
徵召匈牙利人欸114.136.162.236
狹義的說居住烏克蘭的 匈牙利族 不是匈牙利人 廣義的說 在匈牙利後來的國籍法中 只要是匈牙利族 就可以申請匈牙利籍 這些可以說是匈牙利人
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/14/2023 23:00:33

buddyricky, 15F
好好笑112.78.66.207

clover1211, 16F
所以這部份人有兩國國籍嗎?60.198.187.63
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/14/2023 23:01:55

fenway18, 17F
所以這些人有沒有服匈牙利的兵役?220.137.224.145
你在台灣 沒聽過僑民嗎? 僑民服兵役嗎? 僑民在台灣每年居住不滿時間 好像也不用服兵役吧

yamakazi, 18F
台灣也差不多阿,看政府敢不敢在機場抓61.228.138.13

yamakazi, 19F
有雙重國籍的人 打仗前一律抓來當兵61.228.138.13
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/14/2023 23:04:48

sobiNOva, 20F
歐洲國籍就很亂 因為當時亂亂切118.167.81.200

allofme, 21F
前幾天的消息,山地旅128不就是從那抓人42.73.236.165

allofme, 22F
42.73.236.165

angellll, 23F
交換戰俘 匈牙利有俄國戰俘?114.37.170.69
你好 烏克蘭用的是trade 我翻譯的也是交易 不是exchange 交換

q34355997, 24F
烏克蘭到處強抓人當兵 砲灰不夠用101.136.255.145

polypress, 25F
軍武版主mmmimi11tw不喜歡這篇文章:(1.200.12.231

zeugen, 26F
俄羅斯東正教49.216.18.4
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.247.32 臺灣), 06/15/2023 01:33:50

leterg, 27F
這些人就以前被劃入烏克蘭,住邊境,但還180.217.140.3

leterg, 28F
是有發給匈牙利籍,也有烏克蘭籍180.217.140.3

leterg, 29F
匈牙利這種行為算正常,當初武漢封城時,180.217.140.3

leterg, 30F
沒有人能出武漢,他們也交涉派軍機去武漢180.217.140.3

leterg, 31F
把被封的匈人載回國(民航機不能降落)180.217.140.3

suanruei, 32F
臺灣以後也去機場抓美國人當兵42.77.130.30

dbwu, 33F
消息來源36.231.77.55
我貼了三個不同的消息來源 你是一個都沒看?? 你是沒眼睛嗎????
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.55.232 臺灣), 06/15/2023 10:53:59

lau6m2002, 34F
這樣感覺是烏克蘭的問題怎變他們是指責111.235.252.38

lau6m2002, 35F
方?111.235.252.38

Antihuman, 36F
roc?藍白糞崩潰223.136.255.3
看到 ROC會崩潰的只有小粉紅和小粉綠
※ 編輯: A6 (101.9.242.252 臺灣), 06/15/2023 13:54:14

azc3144, 37F
看起來是烏問題比較大 是在叫幾點?101.0.236.121

cat5672, 38F
我還以為是俄羅斯奧委會49.216.237.217

baliallin, 39F
因為是烏克蘭籍匈牙利裔吧?當然得當烏223.200.122.19

baliallin, 40F
克蘭兵223.200.122.19

squelch, 41F
給推114.43.194.231

elvis30901, 42F
39.15.33.239

www115ui8, 43F
正常程序是先跟烏克蘭換俘匈牙利再跟39.14.38.119

www115ui8, 44F
烏克蘭談39.14.38.119
你可以參考韓戰 聯合國軍的處理方式 不是送中國 而是根據戰俘意願
※ 編輯: A6 (61.227.178.95 臺灣), 06/15/2023 16:09:38

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