[情報] GN評測4060Ti數據整理 + 部分嘴砲翻譯

來源：https://youtu.be/Y2b0MWGwK_U 前面有人先貼了，所以我就補充個數據整理 順便烤個三分熟的肉 GN的嘴砲一直都很好笑，火力又猛，這次也不例外 先上數據 https://i.imgur.com/KnSbvdM.png 0代表在誤差範圍內，根本沒差 控制4K遊戲材質載入錯誤應該就是爆VRAM了 以下是一些GN嘴砲的內容 全靠個人英聽+自己翻譯 翻完才想到幹嘛不丟給chatGPT 但已經做了就算了XD 有附上對應的影片章節起始時間 想聽的人再用章節時間標大略找一下 ★0:00 2016 called and it wants its resolution back, which is apparently 1080p. Nvidia, a company that previously paid influencers to make videos about 8K gaming on 3090 cards, is now marketing its new 400 dollar RTX 4060 [Ti] for 1080p. Great! The RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB is one of the worst GPU launches from Nvidia that we've ever covered, and we don't want to waste anyone's time here. So, here's how it scales: It's anywhere from negatively scaled against the 3060 Ti, or effectively equal once you sort of normalize for error, which is a really bad place to be, up to maybe 19 or 20% at the very best. And that is scaling the range of 1080p to 4K. There's a reason Nvidia wants to focus on 1080p here. We tested all the games that we usually test at 1080, 1440, and 4K, and as the resolution increases, the performance falls of a cliff and plummets into oblivion. 2016年在呼喊著它想要要回自己的解析度aka 1080p NV這公司之前還花錢請名人(指LTT等人)幫它的8K遊戲卡3090打廣告 現在卻用1080p作為4060Ti的行銷標語 4060Ti 8G是我們評測過NV發表的最爛顯卡之一 幫大家省點時間：對比3060Ti，從1080p到4K，它基本打平，最多贏19~20% 老黃要大家專注於1080p不是沒有原因的 隨著遊戲解析度往4K升高，4060Ti的效能直接崩落到虛無幻境 ★2:21 Resolution was once the thing that drove sales of the high end. In order to push high-end, say, 1080 Ti or 20 series sales, the move was towards not just RT at the time, which wasn't established yet, but rather 4K gaming when rasterized and that's especially true for something like the 1080 Ti. But as RT has pushed into the market, and more appropriately, as game developers have become lacks in optimization for some of the titles that are coming out today, the resolution argument has fallen off; and instead the focus shifts to anything else that looks more favorable. That is no longer Nvidia's focus, and that's fine, but it still has to scale. It's okay for the technological focus to shift to some other graphics technology that's more relevant or more interesting or whatever. But it needs to be defended sensibly. And the 3060 Ti equating the 4060 Ti in some of the scenarios, or the two having barely enough of a gap to justify anything more than overclocking your 3060 Ti, that's the problem. And AV1 and DLSS3 are basically the only things that prop up the 40 series 60 SKU as being even the new generation. 遊戲解析度以往是推銷1080Ti或20系高端卡的賣點 尤其是光追技術還不存在的時候 4K光柵化效能是高端卡的賣點 但隨著光追問世，加上更多的是遊戲開發者的破優化 技術力的賣點從解析度轉向其他方面 老黃的焦點不再是解析度，這本身沒問題 但NV還是要有所進步 如果你科技的焦點轉向其他更有用或更有趣的畫質技術(指光追、DLSS) 這當然OK，但仍需要能說服別人你這樣做是合理的 4060Ti只打平、或提升到只比超頻後的3060Ti再強一點的程度，是個大問題 AV1編碼跟DLSS3是唯二讓4060系看起來像新世代產品的東西 ★7:12 You actually couldn't get this much generation to generation consistency if you tried. Nvidia's performance here is phenomenal, very impressive. They were able to flat line a card from 60 to 60, and show an improvement that basically amounts to noise. You could overclock a card and get 8%. Even another 8GB of vram can't save this GPU. Its impotence is insurmountable from simply vram; it needs more than that. 你只要做任何一點努力 結果都不會是毫無增長的跨代效能 老黃你真的表現得太屌了，屌炸天 NV你們居然能讓跨代60系效能提升值趨近於測量誤差 你拿張卡，超個頻也能提升8% 就算之後出16GB版本也救不了這顯卡 這張卡的爛，只靠加大VRAM是救不回來的 ★10:10 (這我就不放原文了) 4K就是車禍現場(train wreck) Intel Skylake+++ 再現 ★11:21 We're at waste of sand levels of bad, and rapidly descending. Soon, it will be just a waste of molecules. 這是浪費沙子等級的爛，而且還會繼續更爛 不久之後就會變成浪費分子的爛 ★14:49 Maybe that's the trick to all of this: The scaling here suggests that if we just drop the resolution to 360p, maybe 144p, it might be in territory where we see reasonable generational gains. But right now this truly is reliving Haswell into Skylake. And if you were there, your know how boring that was, until Intel had a competitor again. It's the newest high-end 144p gaming card. Get your Quake and Unreal tournaments ready, here we go. 隨著解析度降低，效能會上升這點 或許就是NV想玩的把戲： 這趨勢告訴我們如果把解析度調到360或144p 4060Ti就可能有顯著跨代進步 （這活像是Haswell到Skylake的年代 如果你體驗過那年代你就知道每年都超無聊 直到i皇重新遇到競爭者） 4060Ti是最新的高階144p顯卡，快準備好你的Quake跟浴血戰場 (這段有夠嗆www) ★15:47 Intel Arc has been below this price class alone for months now and even its A750, a card now sub-300 dollars, is within 30% of the 4060 Ti. Nvidia is contributing to one of the best marketing campaigns that Intel could hope for. After the melting X3D CPUs and this disastrous launch, all Intel has to do is stay quiet, and its products will sell themselves. i皇Arc是低於4060Ti價位帶的少數選擇 A750這張比300鎂還便宜的卡都能打到4060Ti 30%以內的差距 NV根本是在幫Intel做最好的宣傳 經歷燒熔X3D跟4060Ti爛到笑的發佈之後 i皇只要不出聲，他的產品就能自己賣的動 (聽到這裡時我直接笑死) ★29:34 DLSS3, while available on the 4060 Ti, is not sufficient to justify its existence in this capacity. It is a waste of sand. DLSS3不足以替4060Ti的存在辯護 這張卡就是在浪費沙子 (影片另一處也提到不是每個遊戲都支援DLSS3，更不是每個人都想開啟這功能) 心得： 1080p小贏3060Ti 解析度往上就不行了 硬體規格就半殘 還嘴欠摩爾已死 訂這白癡死人價格 官方數據靠DLSS3撐場面 而且對照30系只有DLSS2根本無法公正比較 老黃真的是過太爽 i A你們兩個加油好嗎 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 27.247.70.214 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1684861645.A.02B.html